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Empty for Years: What Should Replace Napa Wherehouse/f.y.e.?

The former entertainment store on Jefferson Street across from the Grapeyard has been closed for years and continues to stand empty. What business should locate there next? Share your visions for this vacancy.

Nobody in Napa really liked the Wherehouse when it was open, and we liked it even less when it became f.y.e. and then closed.

Years later, the former music, movies and games store at 3219 Jefferson St., next to Wells Fargo and across from the Grapeyard shopping center, remains vacant.

The freestanding store has 7,000 square feet and plenty of parking. It's for lease at $24 a square foot, per year, through Michael L. Holcomb of Strong & Hayden Commercial Real Estate at (707) 226-2661 x203. A listing sheet accompanies this article.

What business would you like to see come to this vacant store? Share your vision with us in the comments section. And if you have memories about the old Wherehouse/f.y.e., feel free to share those too.

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Pam Birdsall November 4, 2012 at 09:03 pm
I'd love to see a Marshall's/TJ Max or Home Goods store!
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau November 4, 2012 at 09:04 pm
I'm hear ya, Michael. Get all jacked on caffeine and count money. Sounds like a Republican wet dream.
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau November 4, 2012 at 09:11 pm
That sounds exactly like a "Chuck-E-Cheese" pizza place. Although it's a haven of bacteria and germs and the food is disgusting it might actually work in that space.
MICHAEL WILSON "Republican Kid" November 4, 2012 at 09:34 pm
Steve Coffee and money go great together. I was always suspicious of a Pizza Place with a Rat mascot. It is a great place the rent is way to high.
Scott Yeager November 4, 2012 at 10:24 pm
I am not sure if your comment of Patch being unfriendly was directed at me or not because of my comment about a couple of thousand people who would shop like you do but it wasn't meant to be unfriendly at all.
Unfortunately I don't think there are enough people to keep a record store afloat in this very small city. Almost everyone under 30 doesn't even understand the concept of paying for music and it doesn't matter what format it is: digital download or music or movies, cd, vinyl or dvd or blu-ray. There aren't any record stores opening now but there are plenty closing down every year. Places like Best Buy are reducing the amount of cds, dvd and blu-rays they carry, not increasing stock.
Cmmrn November 4, 2012 at 10:27 pm
@ Steve.....I hve never been a fan of chuck e cheese, however it isn't as bad as it used to b, however chuck e cheese is geared more for young kids & not the Pre teen- teen group! If I had the $$ I would really consider doing something kid friendly as I mentioned before! The ages 10-14 are such an awkward age that having something for them to do in one location with multiple choices would be great. I have the ideas & plans but not the $!!! Bummer!!
Mary Richardson November 4, 2012 at 10:36 pm
My husband has worked in the music business for a long time, and he's heard of Rounder Records and worked a handful of the artists who are on their roster. He says: "Cool!" He assures me that we have 4 turntables, and three of them still work! It is true, though, that we have not bought vinyl in a long time.
Scott Yeager November 4, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Right next door to it was Tower and down the street Rasputin's and Amoeba. The latter two still exist, but barely.
I have been in both on a Saturday recently from about 11:30am to 1:30pm and you can almost count the number of customers on one hand. Literally. College students don't buy music anymore.
Scott Yeager November 4, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Vinyl has made a big comeback but it isn't making up for the erosion of CDs and illegal downloading. Unfortunately, it is a very small piece of the pie even with the recent resurgence.
People like David Byrne, as an example, can't really make any money from royalties anymore and have to license their music to make a living. Although he doesn't license his music for commercials. In order to do that you have to own and control your publishing which a lot of people don't have, from certain decades especially.
Donna Rae Fortenberry November 4, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Many of us were here before our valley and wine became so popular. Napa has always been a great place to live. Who would want to move.
tamie November 5, 2012 at 12:44 am
Napa had a Chuck E Cheese on Soscol Ave in the same strip mall as Quizno's.
Mary Richardson November 5, 2012 at 03:47 am
Yes, Scott, sadly, times have certainly changed, and you are right about the college students. I enjoyed Leopold's. I remember picketing Tower Records when they were first moving in. I still have the Tommy record Leopold's gave me for my efforts. Now, they're both gone. We do still shop at the Rasputin's in Vallejo. Sometimes it's crowded and sometimes not, but you can find good deals if you're willing to take the time to shop for them.
Wendy McCall November 5, 2012 at 04:51 am
Michael's or a Hobby Lobby!
JParingit November 5, 2012 at 10:44 am
I agree with a micheals or hobby lobby
Lori Duncan November 5, 2012 at 11:57 am
A really nice furniture store!
Lorie November 5, 2012 at 01:33 pm
Louisa Hufstader
8:47 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012 Lorie, an arcade is an intriguing suggestion. --------------------------- What's intriguing about suggesting an Arcade?
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) November 5, 2012 at 01:41 pm
Lorie, maybe I am easily intrigued but I just thought it was interesting because we don't have anything like that in the neighborhood, and because somehow I keep finding myself in arcades elsewhere: I have been to three this year, on Martha's Vineyard and in Salem, Mass., and at a sports bar in Petaluma that had an Elvis pinball machine (!!).
The one in Salem Willows had some very strange games ("Fruit Ninja," anyone?) and the one on the Vineyard had the fortune teller from "Big."
Scott Yeager November 5, 2012 at 01:46 pm
Amoeba has 3 stores.
Scott Yeager November 5, 2012 at 01:48 pm
You have a better chance of being hit by a meteor than you do of Amoeba opening a store here:)
Lorie November 5, 2012 at 02:01 pm
LOL!...my mind wonders a lot too.
I thought it'd be great precisely because we don't have anything like it in Napa (except a handful of machines at the Cinedome and the Bowling alley), but every time I find myself in one, or walking by one (Santa Cruz Boardwalk the most recent one) I see tons of people of all ages spending tons of money...I guess it's addictive *.*
Scott Yeager November 5, 2012 at 02:01 pm
How are arcades doing with so many people playing home video games?
Lorie November 5, 2012 at 02:06 pm
I guess it's the thrill of accumulating tokens/tickets and then redeem them for whatever it is they're shooting for (pun?).
Mary Ellen November 5, 2012 at 02:30 pm
Napa Patch is friendly enough. Unfortunately there are a few commenters who like to feel in charge and intimidate. Don't let them discourage you Elaine, there are still many of us who welcome a different view.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) November 5, 2012 at 03:31 pm
Is there a place in Napa to do Dance Dance Revolution? That's much more fun when there are people around to laugh at you.
Tom Davidson November 5, 2012 at 04:00 pm
Can you IMAGINE a Napa without the wine bars and wineries ?
Without the tourists, the chef-worshippers, the failing restaurants, torn-up roads,and a government who ignores the residents to pander to weekend visitors and the tourism-business owners, it was a beautiful place to live. Back when there were only 20,000 people who lived in Napa that appreciateed the peace, beauty, and solitude, it was a GREAT place to live. Now we have a whole bunch of new people who want downtown to vibrate and wonder why we don't like their failed vision for a Disney valley. But we just do what we can to ignore the wine bar and winery lovers and the potholes that they love. It's still a nice place to leave if you can get away from the tourists and those that worship them. I just can't get over these people who think this valley was ALWAYS this screwed up. But what do you expect in a world that looks at a place with an airport, a navigable waterway with railroad tracks and decides that's the PERFECT place for MORE HOUSES ? The new Napa Valley built for the tourons. What's not to love ?
Lorie November 5, 2012 at 04:38 pm
Now, you're talking!
I would settle for a DAILY morning (8:00 am) Jazzercise class and dance my stress away!!!!
Scott Yeager November 5, 2012 at 04:49 pm
"Back when there were only 20,000 people who lived in Napa that appreciateed the peace, beauty, and solitude, it was a GREAT place to live."
I would imagine when there were only 20,000 people living in the city limits of Napa there were a few billion less people on the planet at the time. I believe someone wrote a blog post recently about overpopulation and what you are describing you can point directly to an ever increasing population. It's not like Napas population grew but California, the U.S. and worldwide population didn't grow at the same time.
Mary Richardson November 5, 2012 at 05:04 pm
OK, still going down memory lane a bit .... Above Leopold's on Durant Avenue in Berkeley was Silver Ball - one of my very favorite hangouts growing up! It was alive with buzzers and bells and the excitement of winning that extra game! In an adjoining alcove was Pong and the newest technology in video games. You could hear the "Smack smack, smack, SQUEEL!!"as someone beat a worthy opponent at air hockey! Downstairs you could buy music at Leopold's, and just up the street you could get a bite to eat at Top Dog ...... So jumping forward to Napa and reading these comments, It'd be cool to have part of the space converted into a dance/jazzercise space in the mornings, and an arcade for kids to hang out in after school and on weekends with a snack bar, and a music store all wrapped up in one.
If you sectioned the space out properly, it just could work! I'm dreaming? Well, probably, but that's part of what life's about!
Mark Mathews November 5, 2012 at 10:19 pm
A Chick-fil-A
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) November 5, 2012 at 10:36 pm
LOL Mark. The place could hold an entire food court, for that matter; but retrofitting would be needed (kitchen, exhaust fans etc.).
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Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
Loui Loui June 17, 2013 at 08:58 am
An actual post with the information and image of the home on this site would've been helpful -Read More instead of just a lazy link.
F Otterbeck June 17, 2013 at 03:17 pm
Is there any way to remove the blogs from the news page? Blogs are not news. They are opinionRead More pieces, and I would like more news. thanks!
Keri Brenner (Editor) June 17, 2013 at 05:41 pm
Hi Beau and F: Yes, the &#39 are still there and not going away. I trust that tech people areRead More working on this...Sorry. And as far as the blogs being on the news stream, I can't change that except to keep the blogs mostly at the bottom and the news on top. The new platform is designed to highlight the blogs more than they were before. Occasionally if there is a timely, useful or highly newsworthy blog post I will move it up, but in general the news will be in the first 5 slots and the blog below. Hope that helps. Keri
F Otterbeck June 19, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Promoting blogs instead of news makes the Patch less useful. I liked having an alternate newsRead More source. Blogger promotion is too much like stroking the egos of local bloggers rather than promoting news and information. It seriously compromises the value of Napa Valley Patch as a news source.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) June 16, 2013 at 02:47 am
Go, Jamie! I voted, all the way out here in lobsterland where I hope you and Kevin will visit someRead More day.
Roberta Goodin June 16, 2013 at 05:49 pm
Jamie, I have clicked on you several times and wish you the best! Salad sounds wonderful! Roberta
Jamie Brown Miller June 18, 2013 at 07:07 am
You're all so very kind! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Kimberly Olson June 14, 2013 at 08:18 am
It is easy to judge people from a distance. All of us have up and down times in life, none of usRead More have the same internal or external supports to deal with it all. Maybe those among us who feel superior could try to take a moment or more to see life from the perspective of someone who (even from a position of pain or vulnerability) has too much pride to accept the stigma of being in need of the social translation of "the lowest of the low" homeless shelter or addiction counseling. It feels good to try lifting others up rather than tearing them down; Maybe your smile or expression of something other than disgust could make a positive difference to move a person in need toward help.
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau June 14, 2013 at 06:17 pm
Lo! And behold! If you check today's (Friday, June 14) Fugitive page on Napa Valley Patch you willRead More see Benjamin Paz, the one and same who was arrested for being naked at the Expo.
Ray Richards June 15, 2013 at 06:16 pm
Thank you Marlene for your story, It is a tragic and difficult life that many homeless people haveRead More to live and I always thank my god that I have been more fortunate. I would like to respectfully suggest though that you break your future comments (and I hope there are many more) into paragraphs to make them easier to read. Thank you and I hope you well.
Keri Brenner (Editor) June 12, 2013 at 10:25 pm
Not the case. It's definitely on the list of stories to cover. Absolutely! Thanks for the reminder!
J. Roland Wagner June 13, 2013 at 08:06 am
Before advocating change, be sure of what you will obtain by such a change. I haven't seen anythingRead More that concerned me with Libersteins decisions.
MICHAEL WILSON June 13, 2013 at 08:27 pm
If He is running unopposed It would be a waste of Ink. Or in the case of media of the day A waste ofRead More electricity. Look at the County Sheriff We are stuck with Who ever the Union wants
Loui Loui June 13, 2013 at 10:25 pm
I'd like to show appreciation to my grandfather on Father's Day. He taught me how to cook a roast,Read More garden, work with tools, use a shotgun and appreciate our surrounding waters. Always a patient man, my grandfather showed me so much. I got scared once when I broke a tool when we were building a skateboard ramp. He just replied with, at least you know not to do that anymore. I always admired how my grandfather loves my grandmother so much. That's old, true love. Fairy tail kinda stuff. Love we all want to grow old with. I love my grandpa with all my heart.
Keri Brenner (Editor) June 17, 2013 at 06:19 pm
Hi Loui Loui: Your grandpa sounds wonderful!
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau June 13, 2013 at 10:41 am
Loui Loui, it's called false pretenses and misleading claims. While I understand it's not theRead More editor's or tech's fault, releasing a product to the public as "New with better features!" shouldn't mean that it comes with glitches, bugs and frustration. And unlike Google+ and FB, Napa Valley Patch didn't "come out", we had a NVP that was working perfectly fine and Corporate Patch decided to upgrade. Can you imagine the ether-riots if FB did an "upgrade" full of glitches and bugs"?
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau June 13, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Actually, Loui, I left FB two years ago and haven't been back since. And while Patch and FB may beRead More "free" services they rely on users to exist. It's a symbiotic relationship, so both sides must be content for it to work efficiently.
MICHAEL WILSON June 15, 2013 at 10:24 am
I am With USS on Facebook I have never Been there. I use the Patch and a few Blogs I also have myRead More own Website. Facebook has gone into the censorship business, from what many are telling me.
Unfiltered Steve Simoneau June 10, 2013 at 06:42 pm
Why the Hispanics need their own Chambers Of Commerce is a mystery to me. Racism is the promotion ofRead More one race above others. If I supported a White/Caucasian Chamber Of Commerce I'd be labeled a bigot and racist. One Chamber Of Commerce should suffice for ALL!
Harold Edwards June 11, 2013 at 01:15 am
All the Chamber of Commerce promotes is slave labor pure & simple.It screws the worker &Read More practices unfair labor for business big and small.They are not a team player there only for the team owner!! Don't fall for there wicked ways.
Renée Bell (Courtesy photo)
Amy Larson June 12, 2013 at 02:22 pm
It says 7 comments for this article when it's on the side. When you go to the post, there are 0.Read More This will show up as the first one.
Amy Larson June 12, 2013 at 02:23 pm
Sorry, "comment". Now it's adding to the count with each real comment.
gaylon June 6, 2013 at 03:39 pm
Loui Loui, Will do! So happy to hear of your interest in this important issue..
Janice Allgower June 11, 2013 at 10:21 am
Gaylon. I will be there and bring my husband along as well. Great speaker , he should really informRead More us all on just what is going on.....
gaylon June 11, 2013 at 11:03 am
Janice, Thank you for your interest...This is a huge concern for most citizens....Bring aRead More neighbor...See you there...