New State Laws Change Rules on Drinking, Handgun Ammo

Despite long months of wrangling over the budget, California's legislature still managed to pass 733 bills in 2010. Here's a sample.

Several state laws going into effect in 2011 address two of California's most contentious topics: alcohol consumption and handgun use.

Hosts accountable for serving teens: The legislature adopted two measures, both effective January 1, intended to stave off the risks of underage drinking. 

Assembly Bill 2486, the "Teen Alcohol Safety Act of 2010," opens a "social host" who is 21 or older to the risk of legal liability for property damage, injury or death that results from knowingly serving alcohol to underage guests. 

The legislative record refers to the new law as a "parental responsibility bill," designed to hold adults responsible when they give teens alcohol and to discourage parents and other adults from providing teens with booze of any kind at private parties or residences.

Limited amnesty for teens calling 911: When teenagers do drink, existing law makes them subject to criminal liability for buying alcohol or carrying it in public.

A second bill, AB 1999, aims to help teens stay safe by granting them limited protection from certain criminal charges if they call 911 to ask for help for themselves or another teen who has been drinking.

The new law does not prevent teens from suffering the consequences when the law says alcohol would make an activity – such as driving -- dangerous.

Coming soon: whisky tastings? Beginning January 1, 2011, certain retailers with an "off-sale" alcoholic beverage license -- which usually means grocery stores, liquor stores and other retailers selling alcoholic beverages that won't be consumed on their own premises -- are eligible for a $300 instructional tasting license from the Alcoholic Beverage Control board.

Assembly Bill 605 creates a new category of ABC license allowing retailers to offer free tastings of beer, wine, and /or spirits.

Previously, some retailers could host beer and wine tastings, but the new law makes the tasting-license process less cumbersome and includes the chance to offer free hard alcohol.

Thumbprints, ID required for the sale of ammunition: Actually passed during 2009, Assembly Bill 962, the "Anti-Gang Neighborhood Protection Act of 2009," takes effect February 1, 2011.  The new law requires handgun ammunition sellers to record a buyer's thumbprint along with other valid identification and make the records available to law enforcement for five years.

"I think it's just going to be a pain," said Irene Cravea, while working the counter at her son's shop, in Napa.

"I think a lot of people will walk away because they don't want to have to give their information," Cravea said.

Jack Jennings, who owns The Last Gun Shop inside in Napa, said the state had a similar law back in the 1960s. 

He said that with guns so readily available today, he doesn't see how requiring purchase records can help the state do anything about gun violence.

"It won't stop gang members from shooting each other, it won't stop someone from robbing a liquor store, it won't stop a husband from shooting his wife," Jennings said.

A customer in Jennings' shop, Steve Kreps, was visiting from Missouri, where concealed weapons permits are available to anyone properly trained.

Kreps said he thinks Californians are at a disadvantage because of "liberal" attitudes toward gun control.

"In Missouri, crime has gone down because criminals know that anyone could be carrying a gun," he said.

Kreps added that he sees the new law as a step in the direction of taking away all guns, and blames Nancy Pelosi.

The California Rifle and Pistol Association and the National Rifle Association have filed a lawsuit to stop AB 962. 

Dan Duffy January 24, 2011 at 06:21 PM
what does that have to do with the tea in China. That actually sounds pretty pleasant (as opposed to the -4 on my front porch this morning. Saving a lot of money on ammo since it is too cold to go to the range and shoot. Guns work great but I don't... Good for TV time after I run the Snow Blower to clear the drive for visitors. BTW Did you hear anything about the attempted assasination of the Gov of MO.?? Just saw mention of it on a morning blog. LOL
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 24, 2011 at 07:19 PM
Nothing really -- just sort of a meta-comment on stereotypes and superficiality. Nope, did not see anything about an assassination attempt in Missouri. I have asked my researcher to look into it.
Joe Glessner January 24, 2011 at 09:07 PM
I want laws that make sense. If we are going to exempt retired LEO's from a particular law, I see no reason not to also exempt retired Military (I am neither). However, if we are going to allow those exemptions, there should also be a legal avenue for private citizens to gain exemption (through specific training or certification). I don't hold with the the current trend to create a class of people who are like you and me, only better. I've been shooting for better than 20 years, and am much safer when handling a firearm than many of my friends who are Law Enforcement (and I can shoot better than almost all of them). Just because you have a badge does not somehow make you any safer, or a better shot. What it does do, is prove that you have (at some point) received firearms training. Funny how none of these gun control shills ever want to discuss firearms safety education being something that should be done in school (which I very much believe that it should), but will then complain that there are no requirements for safety training before someone can purchase a gun (which is not true in California, at least with respect to handguns).
Joe Glessner January 24, 2011 at 09:08 PM
The incident that Dan is referring to actually happened in September, but was never picked up by national news (until today apparently). Here is a link to the story: http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/far-left-activist-slashes-throat-of-man-he-mistakes-for-governor-media-silent Pretty sad. And also yet another act that points to the conclusion that guns (or magazines) cause crime is just false. Sometimes people get up in the morning and decide that they are going to do something terrible today. And will use whatever tool is convenient.
E. G. Stewart January 25, 2011 at 12:58 AM
QUOTE: Pretty sad. And also yet another act that points to the conclusion that guns (or magazines) cause crime is just false. Sometimes people get up in the morning and decide that they are going to do something terrible today. And will use whatever tool is convenient. END QUOTE Kinda like taking a box cutter on an airliner. Surely it's the fact that the hollow handle of a box cutter will hold a dozen or so extra blades that make them more deadly than a folding knife. High-capacity magazine, ya know. Regards, Stew
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 25, 2011 at 02:13 AM
And what about the issue of mental health treatment? A dangerously sick person with a knife is just like a dangerously sick person with a gun, except that the one with the gun can hurt more people. Neither of them should have a weapon -- both of them need treatment. Yet what we get is exactly the reverse: No treatment, yes weapon. Shouldn't we be 1) paying more attention to national mental health needs and 2) trying to build a society in which violence is not so widely celebrated as a way of settling disputes?
walter jones January 25, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Louisa, for #1, it scares me to foresee what a mess could be made of the mental health treatment as more government gets involved, but I do agree it plenty messed up now. For #2, start by going to church, begin learning the right way to act and to treat others, and demanding respect from those family and friends that you can influence. Do you think this celebration of violence is showing more in the younger generations?
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 26, 2011 at 12:19 AM
Walter, #1 who said anything about the government and 2) Younger people in every generation are often more violent than their elders, whether or not they go to church. For instance: Timothy McVeigh, the young, American, Christian terrorist who committed the Oklahoma City massacre.
Dan Duffy January 26, 2011 at 05:45 AM
As I mentioned previously, one of the problems of "Mental Health Care" is the restriction of and fear of law suites for making mental health concerns (such as at Va Tech) know to local officals and or parents of the subject. Problem (an aclu issue) is so bad that some universities will not send transcripts or discipline action to parents of minor students - the parents that get and pay the bill for the tuition... Might have save some problems in VA, AZ, TX, CA etc if the schools had notified the registered parent of the student that there was a problem, and then followed up with the local law enforcement authority. Maybe the kid would have gotten help before he went postal. As for the younger generation: I suspect that there are a number of factors which come into play re violence with them.... a. single parent or broken home families b. lack of a moral value system (religion) c. Lack of discipline which leads to lack of respect for others and ultimately lack of respect for authority. Parents that coddle junior instead of teaching the value of respect and work... We reap what we sow...
walter jones January 26, 2011 at 01:50 PM
Louisa, you have piqued my interest. What non-government entity could we use too manage the centralization of the records, care and rights of the mentally impaired that need to be taken off the streets and put on the no gun list. As for Timothy McViegh, correct me if I am wrong, but I din't realize that he bombed the government building in the name of Christ. Do you belive that the fundimentalist radicals of any religion truly represent the norm.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 26, 2011 at 05:03 PM
Walter, I'm glad to hear you see fundamentalist religion does not define terrorist acts. It's about time somebody spoke up for the Muslim religion that has been so maligned in recent years.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 26, 2011 at 05:07 PM
Dan, please give us more details about the ACLU's inhibiting effect on our national mental health issues. I can't wait to find out more.
walter jones January 26, 2011 at 08:31 PM
I think it is shameful that so few Muslims have spoken out against the terrorist that come from their religion.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 26, 2011 at 08:34 PM
Walter, how would you even know if they were?
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 26, 2011 at 08:39 PM
I think it is shameful for anyone who brags about his religious values to be passing judgement on people he has never met based on what he thinks he knows about what they did not say. Also, completely absurd. Walter, you are cracking me up!
Don Santos January 27, 2011 at 05:57 AM
How can you feel sorry for people of a rerligion that's whole purpose is to see everyone that is not a muslim dead? How did muslims get brought into this anyway?
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 27, 2011 at 01:26 PM
Just to give you, too, a chance to issue a blanket condemnation about people you've never met. Now maybe we should go back to topics we actually know something about. It looks as if religion is not one of them.
Dan Duffy January 27, 2011 at 04:11 PM
I will answer your question re the ACLU first; They have supplied the money and the lawyers to challenge the rights of the majority in so many cases that the (often Liberal) management of many public institutions (such as colleges and universities throughout the U S) are afraid of their own shadow for fear of being served with a big expensive law suite. If I wanted to sue the school for a failure to report causing harm to my family I would have to worry about them being the defense (with their millions of dollars and high count of lawers). You have a researcher. Have her (or him) contact the colleges in CA and question the Admin on what they are allowed to report and to whom regarding mental health and disciplinary issues on campus. Then ask why. Surprisingly, The ACLU can go the othre way, too. I recently saw an article about them defending a gun rights ruling. Don't remember what it was but.... In regard to the religious issue; we should know if the members of the Muslim community were denouncing the actions of the few terrorists - the news (journalists - few that there may be these days) should report it and the balanced networks (if any) will jump on it, just like they have on the many controversies with the catholic religion. Having said that I am happy to dump that thread and go back to the subject.
Dan Duffy January 27, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Are you an expert on Muslim (Islamic) religion? If not I suggest that you search the Naval War College or the other military & pentagon sources to research the "peaceful religion" of Islam. It is not a pretty picture that they paint. Christians have been guilty of transgressions but it is still questionable who really started the crusades. Today it is my understanding that we (Christians, Jews, Atheists, agnostics, Gays, etc. Just want the right to participate in our religion without fear of repression or reprisal. That is not true of the Islamic religion (from what I have learned in reading and presentations observed over the last 40 years. American Muslims are free to practice their religion without persecution (as long as the abide by US law - which is not repressive unless you want to run your daughter down becauce she is to U.S.) Maybe a few of the readers have heard about this case or the one in NJ or the one in OH, etc. (and oh yeah - many or our fine military participants in this blog have probably met a few of those peaceful Islamics; and also a few of the extremist that want me dead because I am an american and free and a christian etc. I enter this comment only because I am sure that a few of our law enforcement and medical providers have also encountered a few of each. If I had one of them living next door I would want to do some real homework before I made a decision which description fit best.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 27, 2011 at 04:35 PM
Thanks, Dan. Great idea, on the colleges. Actually the "researcher" is a volunteer -- I'm still the only employee here -- so as your suggestion is an excellent one, I'll put that in my follow-up file for a future story. We have a fine community college right in Napa where the officials are very accessible, so I can contact them any time my editing schedule eases up enough to let me dig into a story like this.
Don Santos January 27, 2011 at 07:32 PM
Louisa, try looking up Sharia law. Also with muslims their religion is there law. Also I don't have to have met someone to codemn them for their beliefs. I have never met that I know of any Black Panthers or KKK or Neonazis but I can take extreme exception to what they stand for just like muslims.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 27, 2011 at 07:38 PM
Don, has it ever occurred to you that "what they stand for" might be different to you than to them? On a related note: Have you heard the widely-reported statistic that people who get their information from Fox News are actually more badly-informed than Americans who get their news from other sources? The study polled viewers on a number of factual matters, and Fox viewers tended to get the facts wrong more than anyone else. You could look it up.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 27, 2011 at 07:41 PM
More on the issue of mental health and violence: http://napa.patch.com/articles/town-hall-forum-friday-on-violence-at-napa-state
Don Santos January 27, 2011 at 08:31 PM
When it comes to the muslim religion you obviously don't have a clue what you are trying to talk about.
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 27, 2011 at 08:32 PM
No more clue than anyone else on this thread, that's for sure. Can we move on?
Don Santos January 27, 2011 at 08:37 PM
So nothing has changed at Napa State either. It's been like that for atleast 25 years that I know of and nothing is going to change. After someone gets killed a bunch of wind bag lieing politicians show up and make empty promises about BS palns on how things are going o change. YEAH RIGHT!
Dan Duffy January 27, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Seems like a couple of people got out of bed on the wrong side and are having a problem with continuing a civil discourse on the topics of this thread. I have met real old hard line members of the KKK and it only took one or two to convince me that I had strong disagreement with their philosphy. I have met many Muslims and those that see the religion as a non-violent worship of Ala and an orderly way of life are good people and good citizens. The others not!! The islamic religion has been rewriten in the modern version, and it does teach that the infidels (us) are the enemy and must be made subjects of Ala... And I do not know an American woman that would willfully agree to live under their (shaRia) law. (please pardon my spelling). Guns and madmen were enough of a topic. Now we enter into religion, too???
Ralph Hutchinson January 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) January 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM
Seriously, let's take a step back, how did we get together in the first place ... My reporter is STILL waiting for a couple of call-backs to make her follow-up story on the bill, ahem, bulletproof. But Amy does very solid work and I'm looking forward to posting the article when she's thoroughly done. I will also post a link here, of course! In the mean time, we just published this one, which might be of interest to some folks here: http://napa.patch.com/articles/does-napa-need-a-police-review-commission
Louisa Hufstader (Editor) October 12, 2011 at 03:59 PM
What are Napans saying about the new California law banning openly-carried handguns? Find out, and vote in our poll: http://t.co/9ZbSNya3


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