Is It Time for More Gun Control?

Friday's massacre of 20 first-graders and six adults by a heavily armed gunman in Newtown, Conn., has revived the debate over gun control. We'd like to hear from readers if you think more controls are needed and, if so, what kind.

Armed with two powerful handguns and a semiautomatic AR-15 rifle, Adam Lanza blasted his way through Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., on Friday.

He killed 20 first-graders and six adults, all women, shooting his victims multiple times, before taking his own life. Among those killed was his mother, a gun enthusiast who had often taken him to a local shooting range.

The massacre – coming on top of several other recent mass shootings in the United States, including the April 2 killing of seven people at Oikos University in Oakland – has reignited the gun control debate.

California Senator Dianne Feinstein on Sunday said she would introduce a bill to renew the national ban on assault weapons that lasted for a decade from 1994-2004 before it expired. Some critics viewed the ban as ineffective.

In a statement Friday, Bay Area U.S. Rep. George Miller, whose district includes parts of the East Bay, said it's time "for serious reflection about how we can reduce the flow of guns into the wrong hands." The nation, he said, must "honestly discuss how to prevent people intent on carrying out these savage attacks from so easily obtaining guns and ammunition."

President Barack Obama, speaking at a memorial service Sunday night in Newtown, pledged to "use whatever power this office holds" to stop such massacres and said there was no “excuse for inaction." The New York Times described the President's remarks as "hinting at a fresh effort to curb the spread of guns."

Should we place tighter restrictions on guns and gun ownership? Should they be banned entirely? Or should we make it easier for more people to arm themselves?

We'd like to know what Patch readers think. Do you think gun control laws should be more strict or less strict? If you support more control, what should it be and how should it be enforced?

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Belle (Orchid Lady) December 24, 2012 at 12:23 AM
I see...no ideas as usual.
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 24, 2012 at 12:28 AM
Why don't you enlighten me then Mark, by specifically answering my questions please. If there are Federal laws requiring all gun sales to be made by licensed dealers what are they? Why aren't ammo and military surplus only allowed to be sold by dealers? Why can I go to Vallejo and buy a bullet proof vest at a store?
Mark Mathews December 24, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Penny? Comment?
Mark Mathews December 24, 2012 at 07:14 PM
Did any of you ladies who read this last comment of mine agree, that you would rather have a Glock in your purse, or a mobile phone, when you are walking alone at night?
Mark Mathews December 24, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Aside from Belles' answer (and my thanks to you!), the response to this standing question appears to mimic the sound of one pin dropping. Me thinks a nerve may have been hit, no? Here is a line of poetry for you: "I suppose guilt does, the fingers which post; stifle...?"
Mark Mathews December 24, 2012 at 07:36 PM
Both lanes of a Sonoma County Highway were recently shut down because a man law enforcement states was speeding in his Porsche lost control and slammed into another vehicle traveling the opposite direction, sending a number of innocents to local hospitals. Perhaps if Porches had been outlawed, those folks would not be in the hospital now, and the driver of the porches would be alive? >sarcasm touche <
Mark Mathews December 24, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Ladies first, Belle... YOU brought them up.
Mark Mathews December 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM
I do have ideas, but nothing which the progressives here would stomach, like doing what Israel does, to counter their muslim terrorists who surround their nation.
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 24, 2012 at 09:05 PM
Yes, me first. I already brought up several ideas, of small things that can be done. You haven't addressed them. You say laws already exist. That is purposefully vague. In each of my comments I brought up good topics. Your turn....
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 24, 2012 at 09:09 PM
It has also been disproved that Israel's teachers are armed. Like many of our schools, the have an armed security officer at schools bordering Gaza and on some West Bank areas. When they go on a field trip it is common that they are accompanied by a police officer or armed guard/s. They do not arm their teachers, that's a myth.
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 24, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Mark, touche on your >sarcasm < comment above. Also, from my tablet I cannot respond to individual comments. I can only answer by making a new comment. :)
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 25, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Merry Christmas!
MICHAEL P WILSON "Independent Kid" December 25, 2012 at 08:47 PM
Forget Gun control that was so last week. You get to drive off the fiscal cliff, with Uncle Obama driving the bus. Happy New Year
Veronica December 26, 2012 at 07:31 AM
I just read the series of comments and am sickened at the fact that anyone could lose sight of the story at hand. CHILDREN WERE KILLED - PARENTS ARE MOURNING. This is not the place nr the time for political, gun-bearing statements, even from MM who was so moved by Charlton Heston and thinks we should all carry a gun in our purses (and no, "assault weapons" isn't a made-up term). Personally, I have embraced this as a time to pray for the families who lost their babies. It's an unimaginable tragedy and no one should experience such pain and loss as that of a child.
Mark Mathews December 28, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Yes, you’re correct, No worries! Barak Hussein Obama would not have flown off to Hawaii on vacation nor played golf, if there were a REAL crisis in DC, would he? Naw… Happy “Mmm, mmm, mmm” New Year to you too!
Mark Mathews December 28, 2012 at 01:48 AM
I reject your claim that Israeli teachers are all unarmed. I hope you also don’t believe that President Obama actually earned that (worthless) Nobel Peace Prize for anything other than who and what he is… Right now in our public schools (except, of course, at the Sidwell Friends school and every other swanky private school where the privileged rich liberals send their children) everybody is pretty much unarmed against the reality of criminal possibility, right? Pray tell me your solution is not to actually even the odds of a successful response to a shooting with a good person with a gun? You really and seriously are not saying that you believe that continuing to outlaw all guns on or near a school campus, and telling the teachers to just lock their doors, cross their fingers and hope for the best is the best defense against those in our society who desire to evil, no matter what laws against murders are already on the books?
Mark Mathews December 28, 2012 at 01:49 AM
And you have yet to provide those links to those law you brought up, and as I said prior, chivalry NOT being dead, “ladies first.” I can play progressive “bad-mitten” with you all the day long, if you desire.
Mark Mathews December 28, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Belle, thank you! Merry Christmas (Happy Birthday Jesus Christ the Savior) to you, yours, and all peace loving folks!
Mark Mathews December 28, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Belle, >thanks!< How do you like your Tablet? I am still too onboard with my Toshiba Satellite Laptop to purchase one of those…
Mark Mathews December 28, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Just trying to be like my progressive foes… So, how am I doing so far?
Christian Kallen December 28, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Mr. Mathews should remember that the term of service do not allow personal attacks.
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Mark, I never said ALL Israeli teacher were unarmed. I was saying that the myth that they ARE all armed is false. In the West Bank, where Israelis are 5% of the population, and Israeli settlements are a contentious issue, as well as areas close to Gaza, there may be some armed teachers, but that number is small. It is common however for schools to be accompanied by armed guards, especially on field trips. That was my point.
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 28, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Mark, as far as 'playing progressive bad-mitten' you have been doing a good job of never answering my questions. I don't like playing games, an instead post my ideas on an issue with hopes of a meaningful debate. My two main ideas are about gun shows and private gun sale laws. Can we please discuss these small changes that can be made to current laws, that 'could' possibly reduce the number of ineligible people getting guns, and by default reduce gun violence? We already agree (I think) that better access to mental healthcare, and more help for the caregivers of said people, would also be a good thing. I'm not sure if you want to keep playing, but I want to talk seriously. You are a gun owner, and are active with the NRA, so I can't imagine a more knowledgeable person to discuss this with, even if we don't agree.
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM
About my tablet...I would much prefer a laptop to it! For reading and internet surfing or watching videos, is fine. I just hate this touch screen 'keyboard' and the fact that the tablet likes to change my words. >grumpy face<
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 28, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Here are some links just from a Google search, but most of what I said above are MY ideas and thoughts and wouldn't necessarily have an article to go with it. Loopholes- http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/gun-show-loophole/gun-show-loophole-faq
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 28, 2012 at 11:22 PM
From Texas...:-) http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12/19/4497888/proposal-to-close-gun-show-loophole.html
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM
I love the last part of this one...http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Gun-Shows.htm
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 29, 2012 at 03:44 AM
Oh, and never once have I argued for/against gun free zones. I'm sticking to the topics I feel will be the easiest and most effective. That being...gun show loopholes, private sale laws and mental health issues. May we proceed with out playing 'bad-mitten'? >smiley face<
Ron December 29, 2012 at 04:31 AM
I know many are against more school workers and administrators being armed at schools. I'm also told that no teachers they know are interested in carrying guns. that may be true in Napa but not everywhere. Here's an interesting article. Hundreds of Ohio school workers want to carry guns http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/12/28/armed_teachers.html
Belle (Orchid Lady) December 29, 2012 at 05:41 AM
Thanks for the link Ron. I will read it tomorrow.


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